Debate: Ross Jeffries VS Mystery
Erik Von Markovik (Mystery) challenged Ross Jeffries (Speed Seduction) to a friendly yet epic debate over old school pickup techniques.
Ross Jeffries VS Mystery
Ice White hosted a legendary debate between the two original pickup artists, Ross Jeffries and Erik Von Markovik (Mystery).
The debate is the fourth in the series, following several interesting debates between notable figures in the pickup artist, social circle and red pill space:
The Case For Speed Seduction: Ross Jeffries
- Single Approach Theory: Many beautiful women are by themselves
- Speed Seduction: Seduction is best when done with speed
- Storytelling: DHVs are unnecessary and bragging, perhaps it’s storytelling that is the attractive component
- Inner Game: Healing work to heal trauma is absolutely necessary for game overall
- Opportunity Hesistation: It is best to reject approach anxiety in favor of opportunity hesitation, to turn the idea around into something positive
- Day Game: Ross Jeffries doesn’t like night game (He’s too old for it anyway)
- Extend Opportunity: Meeting women is seen as extending opportunities to connect with women in fun and powerful ways
The Case For The Mystery Method: Erik Von Markovik (Mystery)
- Group Approach Theory: Many beautiful women are in groups
- 7 Hour Rule: Seduction is best when you have spent a few hours together over several locations
- Demonstrating Higher Value (DHV): Preselection, being a leader of men, a protector of loved ones, the willingness to emote and being a successful risk taker are the 5 key demonstrations of higher value to trigger attraction
- Outer Game: Mystery focuses on outer game, inner game should be dealt with by a therapist
- Approach Anxiety: Know your opener
- Night Game: Mystery prefers night game and parties over day game
- Cold Approach: Meeting women is seen as simply approaching women
Who Won?
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